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littleducklings · Member

Heat Gun or Bake - Genesis paints

chattydor · Newbie

Hi, I'm new to this as well, and would really like some help on getting started too. I purchased the full kit and am anxious to get started, but didn't find much information on how and when to bake the limbs etc. Is it necessary to bake after each colour has been applied.?? Anyone who can give me this information, please forward as much detail as possible, as I really don't want to make a mess of this project. I purchased a heat gun along with my kit,
Please don't be shy, I really would appreciate as much advise as you can give me. thanks so much yawn

sara zata · Guru

If you were making porcelain dolls it would be more time consuming. 8 min in an oven isn't that long. And it doesn't take long to cool down for the next lot of painting. Patience is the key issue. In Australia, the oven temp is 130 degrees for 8 mins, for internal wash 10 mins. If you live overseas, your oven temp is 265 degrees. With the same time's as for each colour and internal wash. I frefere not to use a heat gun, as I have tried and have ended up with a shiney baby. But that is just my opinion. Hope this is a help. All this info would be in Painting Teckniques. XXXX June.

Buffington · Guru

Chattydor, did you make sure you purchased a How to DVD when you got the rest of your supplies? That tells exactly about baking temp and times. Yes, it is ABSOLUTELY necessary to bake after every time you apply the paint. If you don't it won't be permanent!

As far as the heatgun... no one should suggest that you use it to do an entire doll kit. Mostly it's used for nails, lips, eyebrows, touch-ups or for the minis. You just take too much risk using it for an entire doll. You can't be sure you got all of the areas of paint to make them permanent.
I agree, the oven is time consuming but is much better. I do know others that use only a heat gun but...

littleducklings · Member

Thanks for your responses. I think I might try the oven, and just make sure I get a loud timer!! for certain areas, such as the wash inside the doll, i don't think a heat gun would be the best option.. but to combine use of both (oven for big, heat gun for small) is a great idea. Thanks!

Buffington · Guru

Sounds like you got it all worked out! :)

Carol · Newbie

Hello i`m new to this forum and to reborning.
Please can any one help! Can you use your normal kitchen oven to bake the doll or do you have to use a separate oven. The reason I ask is because I was told that you wouldn`t be able to bake the doll in the same oven that you cook food in because of the fumes that the vinyl gives off?
Look forward to your advise x

Tina W. · Guru

Hello Carol,
You can use your regular oven with a good and acurate thermometer, some people do use a separate counter top oven to free up their house oven for cooking. Either way you should always be aware and that precautions for some tyoes of vinyls that may give off fumes. Secrist kits are one that I know thier aren't any problems with giving off fumes.

Carol · Newbie

Thanks Tina for your help. Cor i was thinking i`ve got to go and buy an oven now as well! lol

The doll kit i have bought is by Taneaka. Has anyone else used this doll kit, do you think it will be alright in the oven?

thanks,
Carol x

Buffington · Guru

Now, since I have a countertop oven, I have just taken to baking all of my kits in it. It's now a kits only oven. Saves me work and I don't have to worry about some food from the oven I may have missed cleaning, getting on my kits too!

Date: Nov 28, 2010

Yes this kit can be put in the oven. No worries about fumes with this kit.

Sincerely,

Rodger

Your Reborn Dolls

www.yourreborndolls.com

Buffington · Guru

Hi Rodger,
Welcome to our family forum. I see you are new in our forum.
And since this is a 2009 post, were you referring to the "Taneaka" kit earlier in the post? If so, how do you know it is safe to put in the oven? I'm sure the other forumers would like to know in case they want to buy one.
By "safe to bake in the oven" we mean "non-toxic".

Georgiaga · Senior Member

I got 2 kits from Rodger from Ebay and they are Linde Sherer kits. Haven't made them yet, but they look bessutiful and am please with my costs. Ships from CANADA

Buffington · Guru

I'm glad you like them. Note... he never said they were "non-toxic", just that they can go in the oven. Just so you know :)
Secrist's and the German vinyl kits are the only ones I now of that are non-toxic and Secrist says to right on the site. No other sites do that.

flaornge · Member

Can you please tell us what brand and model countertop oven that you use? One company tells me they use a Haier RTC 1700 which is 1.5 cubic ft inside purchased at Walmart but Walmart doesn't carry them anymore. Someone in a forum mentioned raves reviews on a Turbo Infrared oven, but I have not seen any reviews on it. Any suggestions?

Buffington · Guru

We have many many posts on the ovens hun. If you go to the top of the page and click on "search" then type in ovens you will get a lot of posts that all talk about types of ovens and such.
There are many ovens that you cannot use, like: infrared, toaster ovens, all convection ovens, microwaves, etc. Mostly I think people use: Hamilton Beach, Black and Decker, and ? (forgot the name of mine) :O

squeekymouse83 · Member

ok so can we or can we NOTuse the convection toaster oven,after reading this I was very confussed.over the oven questions and answers about oven!

Buffington · Guru

Toaster ovens are not recommended. Convection setting is also not recommended by Genesis (who are the makers of all heat-set paints). Genesis paints were originally made for "canvas" painting, and they put their paintings in an oven.

Did you use the "search" feature up top of the page hun, and type in "ovens"? Or did you just read this thread? In the other threads people have listed the types of ovens they use. I know some have used convection or toaster with what they said was a success but I'm going by manufacturers recommendations.